plenum , in turn he was not refunded. And as for your comment on my " basic" questions on freshalloy, the search for knowledge never ceases. If at any point in your life you fail to have any questions to ask , you are either dead or too stupid to realize that you are missing out on the things you know nothing of. Although this happens to be none of your business, all three persons at my shop use that screename so you have no idea what i may or may not have asked ( once again , you have assumed that you know too much) . And also the shop is doing fine, paying the bills with some to boot. Thank you for your concern. Jonathan